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Alice
22nd March 2004, 09:20 PM
It's impossible to ignore everything thats going on in terms of terrorism, as recently reinforced by the explosions in Madrid. And it's horrible to think that what some people are willing to do. But what do you think this says about people in general? Are people really split into groups of good and bad? And if they are, will good triumph over evil??

Rich
23rd March 2004, 09:27 PM
I choose option 4....no i dont think everything will work out in the end....if so why hasnt it by now? But i also dont think we should get used to it, we shouldnt have to. If we got used to it, it wouldnt bother us, and that kinda puts us in the same league as the terrorists themselves. Not sure if that would actually happen, but its a theory!

Rich

franbeec
23rd March 2004, 09:47 PM
Yeh the good guys always win :D well thats wot I voted for neway, the good will triumph over evil, I think alot of people are being missled nowadays coz I rly think that there's one true religion and all the others are just there to distract us from findin it

screwedlilbunny
24th March 2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by franbeec
Yeh the good guys always win :D well thats wot I voted for neway, the good will triumph over evil, I think alot of people are being missled nowadays coz I rly think that there's one true religion and all the others are just there to distract us from findin it so christianity,jahovas wits. catholics blah blah blah for example... could be distracting you from being hindu? hmmm. now i bet you wanna say all the other religions distract people from the 'god' you believe in??

Morph
24th March 2004, 02:25 PM
There's far more than just good and evil, it isn't that black and white. Most good people have done something that someone else would consider evil and vice versa. We are who we are, and we just have to make the most of our lives. The meaning of life to me is happiness, yours and those close to you. Yes, terrorism is an absolute tragedy, but take care of those closest to you first.

Morph
24th March 2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by franbeec
.....one true religion and all the others are just there to distract us from findin it.....

If there is only one true religion, then surely we should go with the majority? After all, hinduism is the biggest, so we should all become hindus? If there was only one true religion, then EVERYONE would follow it, as it is, there are many religions, and each of those are 'true' to that group of people.
Religion is nothing more than proverbial 'security blanket' to that person, to give their life meaning. If you can't find meaning within your own life, and have to look to a 'God' to find it, then your life IS meaningless! Anyway, that's just my opinion (and I used to be a born again christian! (So i know what I'm talking about))

franbeec
24th March 2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by screwedlilbunny
hmmm. now i bet you wanna say all the other religions distract people from the 'god' you believe in??
Yeah because thats what I believe in, I gave my opinion why does everyone always have to have an opinion on my opinion! Just giv ur own opinion for a change!
Originally posted by Morph
If there is only one true religion, then surely we should go with the majority? After all, hinduism is the biggest, so we should all become hindus?
Maybe thats what someone wants you to think...wouldnt it be the smallest religion whose right, or a less-well known one?

franbeec
24th March 2004, 03:59 PM
As long as you're happy with whatever you believe in and the way you live your life then thats all that matters is it not?

Alice
24th March 2004, 04:02 PM
:fftopic:

Originally posted by Morph
If you can't find meaning within your own life, and have to look to a 'God' to find it, then your life IS meaningless!

I don't see how you can say someones life is meaningless just because they believe in a God. Everyone has their own reasons, i don't see why its so difficult for others to accept that.

But, this thread wasnt supposed to become an argument about religion as such, the argument of good vs evil was to see what effect terrorism was having on people's morale, continuously hearing about deaths on the news isnt the highlight of everyones day. I agree that its not as black and white as i made out with the poll, but theres a big difference between making a few mistakes in your life and being classified as evil.

But it's all subjective........ :D

franbeec
24th March 2004, 04:08 PM
Oooooooh, I didnt realise, Good vs evil covers a variety of subjects ranging from Batman to real life/reality!
I heard that the suicide bombers are brainwashed into thinking they'll get to see God and live in heaven and all sorts of stuff like that to make them kill themselves :shock:

Morph
24th March 2004, 05:02 PM
The point I was trying to make, is that no-one is good or evil. The things we do are only perceived as good or evil by other people with an opinion on the act that was commited. In my opnion, yes, the suicied bombers/ train terrorists did do an evil thing, but they must have done it for something they believe in strongly. Are they evil? Yes and no, because we can only class what they did as evil as long as we have something 'good' to compare it against. In other words we only know 'evil' from the good in the world. If someone does a good deed, then someone does an even better deed, does that make the previous deed a little evil?! Or if someone did something worse than the train bombing, would that make the terrorists a little more good? Confusing! Don't get me wrong, they should be shot for what they did! But this whole good and evil thing, well, neither can exist without the other! I know what I'm on about if no-one else does!

Morph
24th March 2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Alice
.....I don't see how you can say someones life is meaningless just because they believe in a God. Everyone has their own reasons, i don't see why its so difficult for others to accept that....

Perhaps I was being a bit harsh saying it's meaningless, it's just i think that the life around us is more important that trying to please a God. And like I said, I'm speaking from experience so I have reason not to accept it!

The Mullet of G
24th March 2004, 06:26 PM
Anders old chap if I could I'd probably kiss you right now as you've just saved me so much typing, unfortunately I've now got a sore neck with nodding in agreement, its gotta be said thems some of the most clued up posts I've read in this religous forum :thumb: :bow:

Alice
24th March 2004, 08:06 PM
I think last time i replied to a post G made in the religious and beliefs forum i agreed with him....that obviously didnt last long....:rolleyes:

franbeec
25th March 2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Morph
But this whole good and evil thing, well, neither can exist without the other!
Thats a good point because if onyl the good existed then noone would know who the bad were so they might not be called 'good' because they wouldnt know what good was! Same the other way round too/vice versa

The Mullet of G
25th March 2004, 05:29 PM
lol yeah sorry Alice but I just agree so much with what Andy is saying, he's seen things from both sides of the fence so I value his opinion highly, it may be hard to appreciate or seem slightly harsh to people who have only known religion as they have only seen one side of the coin as it were, but once you've seen both sides and you look at all the evidence impartially then it becomes hard to stand back and accept religion as anything other than oppression, lies and manipulation.

Alice
30th March 2004, 11:36 PM
I've seen both sides, I used to be part of a religion, now I'm not. But I still have my beliefs, and manage to live my life how I want to, so I see nothing meaningless about it. I can understand why you see it to be manipulation or lies, but i wish people wouldn't just generalise it so much.....it's not all as bad as u think